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	<title>Comments on: Electronic voting and interactive lectures using twitter (TwEVS)</title>
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		<title>By: Martin Hawksey</title>
		<link>http://www.rsc-ne-scotland.org.uk/mashe/2009/09/twevs/comment-page-1/#comment-759</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Hawksey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did a little test and adding random junk to the pipes.yahoo.com/mashe/twevs uri seemed to work best (overcomes any browser/network caching)

[I&#039;ve also added some junk to the uris used in the pipe (went for utime now) - just in case.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did a little test and adding random junk to the pipes.yahoo.com/mashe/twevs uri seemed to work best (overcomes any browser/network caching)</p>
<p>[I've also added some junk to the uris used in the pipe (went for utime now) - just in case.]</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Hirst</title>
		<link>http://www.rsc-ne-scotland.org.uk/mashe/2009/09/twevs/comment-page-1/#comment-756</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hirst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cacheing affects the retuns from the pip in sveral places:

- cacheing on your computer/browser;
- cacheing by ISPs
- cacheing by Yahoo Pipes

You can get round cacheing on the browser by adding &amp;randomjunk to the RSS/json URI (whre &#039;randomjunk&#039; is generated fresh each time). Your computer dosn&#039;t cache because each URI is unique.

It strikes me that there&#039;s also a boolean trick for getting round the cache on the pipe side and hence force the pipe to call a fresh twitter search on each query:

http://search.twitter.com/search?q=library+%28-randomjunk%20OR%20randomjunk%29</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cacheing affects the retuns from the pip in sveral places:</p>
<p>- cacheing on your computer/browser;<br />
- cacheing by ISPs<br />
- cacheing by Yahoo Pipes</p>
<p>You can get round cacheing on the browser by adding &amp;randomjunk to the RSS/json URI (whre &#8216;randomjunk&#8217; is generated fresh each time). Your computer dosn&#8217;t cache because each URI is unique.</p>
<p>It strikes me that there&#8217;s also a boolean trick for getting round the cache on the pipe side and hence force the pipe to call a fresh twitter search on each query:</p>
<p><a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=library+%28-randomjunk%20OR%20randomjunk%29" rel="nofollow">http://search.twitter.com/search?q=library+%28-randomjunk%20OR%20randomjunk%29</a></p>
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		<title>By: Martin Hawksey</title>
		<link>http://www.rsc-ne-scotland.org.uk/mashe/2009/09/twevs/comment-page-1/#comment-693</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Hawksey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi David,
A great example of the simple ideas being the best (and also an indication of the power of the crowd). 
Martin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi David,<br />
A great example of the simple ideas being the best (and also an indication of the power of the crowd).<br />
Martin</p>
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		<title>By: David Muir</title>
		<link>http://www.rsc-ne-scotland.org.uk/mashe/2009/09/twevs/comment-page-1/#comment-692</link>
		<dc:creator>David Muir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Martin

Thanks for taking the idea, and my thoughts, even further on this topic. I especially want to look at the methods you describe for embedding and reporting on the results.
 
Compared to Poll Everywhere it is a crude tool but it works. For me the best part is that from a Tweet and a blog post along the lines of, &quot;Is this possible&quot;, you have now developed a working tool. Brilliant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Martin</p>
<p>Thanks for taking the idea, and my thoughts, even further on this topic. I especially want to look at the methods you describe for embedding and reporting on the results.</p>
<p>Compared to Poll Everywhere it is a crude tool but it works. For me the best part is that from a Tweet and a blog post along the lines of, &#8220;Is this possible&#8221;, you have now developed a working tool. Brilliant.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Eby</title>
		<link>http://www.rsc-ne-scotland.org.uk/mashe/2009/09/twevs/comment-page-1/#comment-666</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Eby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 13:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Martin

You&#039;re right, free is hard to beat (and hard to offer). There&#039;s also enjoyment in doing things in a self-service fashion. In fact, that&#039;s how Poll Everywhere is able to do live audience response even as cheaply as it can because of a pretty heavy emphasis on self-service (except if you do need help, we&#039;re available, too).

Anyways, thanks for the reply.

Sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Martin</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, free is hard to beat (and hard to offer). There&#8217;s also enjoyment in doing things in a self-service fashion. In fact, that&#8217;s how Poll Everywhere is able to do live audience response even as cheaply as it can because of a pretty heavy emphasis on self-service (except if you do need help, we&#8217;re available, too).</p>
<p>Anyways, thanks for the reply.</p>
<p>Sean</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Hawksey</title>
		<link>http://www.rsc-ne-scotland.org.uk/mashe/2009/09/twevs/comment-page-1/#comment-665</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Hawksey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 07:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Free is a hard price to beat.
TwEVS = self-service 
polleverywhere = customer service</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Free is a hard price to beat.<br />
TwEVS = self-service<br />
polleverywhere = customer service</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Eby</title>
		<link>http://www.rsc-ne-scotland.org.uk/mashe/2009/09/twevs/comment-page-1/#comment-664</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Eby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 19:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Martin,

As one of the founders of Poll Everywhere, we&#039;re always bringing new features and capabilities to Poll Everywhere and the free plan. The true nature of the free plan is to allow people to see, with their own eyes, that the product does what we claim it to be able to do. The 30 free responses has real monetary costs that we incur (in the forms of messaging, customer service, and other inquiries from free users about how the product works). Which aspect do you feel does not give you &quot;enough&quot; that you wish we had more of for free?

If you mean the response limit on the free plan alone, realize that no other product anywhere on the web offers as much as we do for free, despite the very real business costs associated with providing free text messaging capabilities. If more responses was your biggest request and we gave it to you, would there be anything else we&#039;d need to do to convert you to being one of our extremely loyal, paying customers? What would you like to see us offer you that you personally would actually pay for?

If you&#039;re just going to use it for free for the foreseeable future, that&#039;s fine, too. I can&#039;t guarantee we&#039;ll add exactly what you want to the free plan but any suggestions to make it better are appreciated too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Martin,</p>
<p>As one of the founders of Poll Everywhere, we&#8217;re always bringing new features and capabilities to Poll Everywhere and the free plan. The true nature of the free plan is to allow people to see, with their own eyes, that the product does what we claim it to be able to do. The 30 free responses has real monetary costs that we incur (in the forms of messaging, customer service, and other inquiries from free users about how the product works). Which aspect do you feel does not give you &#8220;enough&#8221; that you wish we had more of for free?</p>
<p>If you mean the response limit on the free plan alone, realize that no other product anywhere on the web offers as much as we do for free, despite the very real business costs associated with providing free text messaging capabilities. If more responses was your biggest request and we gave it to you, would there be anything else we&#8217;d need to do to convert you to being one of our extremely loyal, paying customers? What would you like to see us offer you that you personally would actually pay for?</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re just going to use it for free for the foreseeable future, that&#8217;s fine, too. I can&#8217;t guarantee we&#8217;ll add exactly what you want to the free plan but any suggestions to make it better are appreciated too.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Hirst</title>
		<link>http://www.rsc-ne-scotland.org.uk/mashe/2009/09/twevs/comment-page-1/#comment-663</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Hirst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 08:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice on the pipe page you gave it a nice URI? May be worth using that in the post?

http://pipes.yahoo.com/mashe/twevs?&amp;_render=rss&amp;limit=2&amp;q=%23twevspoll&amp;vm=r</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice on the pipe page you gave it a nice URI? May be worth using that in the post?</p>
<p><a href="http://pipes.yahoo.com/mashe/twevs?&amp;_render=rss&amp;limit=2&amp;q=%23twevspoll&amp;vm=r" rel="nofollow">http://pipes.yahoo.com/mashe/twevs?&amp;_render=rss&amp;limit=2&amp;q=%23twevspoll&amp;vm=r</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention MASHe » Blog Archive » Electronic voting and interactive lectures using twitter (TwEVS) -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tweets that mention MASHe » Blog Archive » Electronic voting and interactive lectures using twitter (TwEVS) -- Topsy.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2009 01:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was recently mentioned on Twitter by Alan Levine (http://twitter.com/cogdog), who said: Trés cool &quot;Electronic voting and interactive lectures using twitter (TwEVS)&quot; http://bit.ly/lmrl9 fun w/Yahoo Pipes, spawn of @psychemedia. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was recently mentioned on Twitter by Alan Levine (<a href="http://twitter.com/cogdog" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/cogdog</a>), who said: Trés cool &quot;Electronic voting and interactive lectures using twitter (TwEVS)&quot; <a href="http://bit.ly/lmrl9" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/lmrl9</a> fun w/Yahoo Pipes, spawn of @psychemedia. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Hawksey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Hawksey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 19:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm direct messages could work (you would have to follow students, which leads back to the old issue of the divide between work and social). 

I&#039;ve looked at polleverywhere before. For me you just don&#039;t get enough for free.

Twtpoll is another one but voting is taken outside twitter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm direct messages could work (you would have to follow students, which leads back to the old issue of the divide between work and social). </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve looked at polleverywhere before. For me you just don&#8217;t get enough for free.</p>
<p>Twtpoll is another one but voting is taken outside twitter.</p>
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